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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Iko » 28 Oct 2017, 17:29

I sea sho pravime...back to square one...cela fizika i astronomija mozhe slobodno da ja frlime u gjubre spored najnovive rezultati...

http://www.rts.rs/page/magazine/sr/stor ... stoji.html

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/fizi ... 03870.aspx
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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Iko » 28 Oct 2017, 17:33

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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Canemakedonski » 28 Oct 2017, 21:34

Ико, овие во Индекс се грешка. Скот Кели го држи само американскиот рекорд за најдолго непрекинато останување во космос. Инаку рускиот и светскиот рекорд за најдолго непрекинато останување во космос сеуште го држи Валери Полјаков кој во 1994-95 година останал во космос 437 без прекин на вселенската станица Мир. Коментар на статијата:

Vitomir Gmižić
Gospodin Kelly nije postavio nikakav rekord osim svojeg osobnog.
Sa 350 dana provedenih u svemiru u jednoj misiji, dijeli četvrto mjesto sa kozmonautom Kornienkom, dok je na prvom mjestu Valery Polyakov sa 437 dana provedenih u svemiru u jednoj misiji.
Na listi ukpno provedenih dana u svemiru je ruski kozmonaut Padalka sa 878 dana koje je skupio u 5 misija.
Astronaut Kelly je na toj listi na 19-om mjestu sa ukupnih 520 dana u 4 misije.
Kada prepisujete članke sa interneta, mogli bi i provjeriti podatke na tom istom internetu, jer dodatno smanjujete kredibilitet ionako lošeg portala.

Коментарот на Кели за Рамноземјаните е сосема на место. Инаку Аполо Смрдел многу полошо од МВС. Доволно е да кажам дека Аполо немал тоалет туку само пластични кеси кои астронаутите ги поставувале на соодветно место во соодветно време...
А и она, како мириса космосот... па како помирисал вакум. Факт е дека по изложеноста на вакум и по неговото повторно ставање под притисок, во Месечевиот модул (патем изграден од тогашен Grumann) се чувствувал мирис на барут или запалени прскалици. Тоа е веројатно реакција на материјалите во кабината изложени на вакум. Веројатно исто мириса и воздушната комора на МВС.

Туку што велиш Ико за онаа кометана од друг Сончев систем? Има Шанси да ја наречат Рама? Ех, да е стварно Рама од романот на Артур Кларк...
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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Canemakedonski » 28 Oct 2017, 21:41

Е ова е нешто:

Scientists detect comets outside our solar system

Scientists from MIT and other institutions, working closely with amateur astronomers, have spotted the dusty tails of six exocomets -- comets outside our solar system -- orbiting a faint star 800 light years from Earth.

These cosmic balls of ice and dust, which were about the size of Halley's Comet and traveled about 100,000 miles per hour before they ultimately vaporized, are some of the smallest objects yet found outside our own solar system.

The discovery marks the first time that an object as small as a comet has been detected using transit photometry, a technique by which astronomers observe a star's light for telltale dips in intensity. Such dips signal potential transits, or crossings of planets or other objects in front of a star, which momentarily block a small fraction of its light.

In the case of this new detection, the researchers were able to pick out the comet's tail, or trail of gas and dust, which blocked about one-tenth of 1 percent of the star's light as the comet streaked by.

"It's amazing that something several orders of magnitude smaller than the Earth can be detected just by the fact that it's emitting a lot of debris," says Saul Rappaport, professor emeritus of physics in MIT's Kavli Institute for Astrophysics and Space Research. "It's pretty impressive to be able to see something so small, so far away."

Rappaport and his team have published their results this week in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society. The paper's co-authors are Andrew Vanderburg of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics; several amateur astronomers including Thomas Jacobs of Bellevue, Washington; and researchers from the University of Texas at Austin, NASA's Ames Research Center, and Northeastern University.

"Where few have traveled"

The detection was made using data from NASA's Kepler Space Telescope, a stellar observatory that was launched into space in 2009. For four years, the spacecraft monitored about 200,000 stars for dips in starlight caused by transiting exoplanets.

To date, the mission has identified and confirmed more than 2,400 exoplanets, mostly orbiting stars in the constellation Cygnus, with the help of automated algorithms that quickly sift through Kepler's data, looking for characteristic dips in starlight.

The smallest exoplanets detected thus far measure about one-third the size of the Earth. Comets, in comparison, span just several football fields, or a small city at their largest, making them incredibly difficult to spot.

However, on March 18, Jacobs, an amateur astronomer who has made it his hobby to comb through Kepler's data, was able to pick out several curious light patterns amid the noise.

Jacobs, who works as an employment consultant for people with intellectual disabilities by day, is a member of the Planet Hunters -- a citizen scientist project first established by Yale University to enlist amateur astronomers in the search for exoplanets. Members were given access to Kepler's data in hopes that they might spot something of interest that a computer might miss.

In January, Jacobs set out to scan the entire four years of Kepler's data taken during the main mission, comprising over 200,000 stars, each with individual light curves, or graphs of light intensity tracked over time. Jacobs spent five months sifting by eye through the data, often before and after his day job, and through the weekends.

"Looking for objects of interest in the Kepler data requires patience, persistence, and perseverance," Jacobs says. "For me it is a form of treasure hunting, knowing that there is an interesting event waiting to be discovered. It is all about exploration and being on the hunt where few have traveled before."

"Something we've seen before"

Jacobs' goal was to look for anything out of the ordinary that computer algorithms may have passed over. In particular, he was searching for single transits -- dips in starlight that happen only once, meaning they are not periodic like planets orbiting a star multiple times.

In his search, he spotted three such single transits around KIC 3542116, a faint star located 800 light years from Earth (the other three transits were found later by the team). He flagged the events and alerted Rappaport and Vanderburg, with whom he had collaborated in the past to interpret his findings.

"We sat on this for a month, because we didn't know what it was -- planet transits don't look like this," Rappaport recalls. "Then it occurred to me that, 'Hey, these look like something we've seen before.'"

In a typical planetary transit, the resulting light curve resembles a "U," with a sharp dip, then an equally sharp rise, as a result of a planet first blocking a little, then a lot, then a little of the light as it moves across the star. However, the light curves that Jacobs identified appeared asymmetric, with a sharp dip, followed by a more gradual rise.

Rappaport realized that the asymmetry in the light curves resembled disintegrating planets, with long trails of debris that would continue to block a bit of light as the planet moves away from the star. However, such disintegrating planets orbit their star, transiting repeatedly. In contrast, Jacobs had observed no such periodic pattern in the transits he identified.

"We thought, the only kind of body that could do the same thing and not repeat is one that probably gets destroyed in the end," Rappaport says.

In other words, instead of orbiting around and around the star, the objects must have transited, then ultimately flown too close to the star, and vaporized.

"The only thing that fits the bill, and has a small enough mass to get destroyed, is a comet," Rappaport says.

The researchers calculated that each comet blocked about one-tenth of 1 percent of the star's light. To do this for several months before disappearing, the comet likely disintegrated entirely, creating a dust trail thick enough to block out that amount of starlight.

Vanderburg says the fact that these six exocomets appear to have transited very close to their star in the past four years raises some intriguing questions, the answers to which could reveal some truths about our own solar system.

"Why are there so many comets in the inner parts of these solar systems?" Vanderburg says. "Is this an extreme bombardment era in these systems? That was a really important part of our own solar system formation and may have brought water to Earth. Maybe studying exocomets and figuring out why they are found around this type of star ... could give us some insight into how bombardment happens in other solar systems."

The researchers say that in the future, the MIT-led Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (TESS) mission will continue the type of research done by Kepler.

Apart from contributing to the fields of astrophysics and astronomy, Rappaport says, the new detection speaks to the perseverence and discernment of citizen scientists.

"I could name 10 types of things these people have found in the Kepler data that algorithms could not find, because of the pattern-recognition capability in the human eye," Rappaport says. "You could now write a computer algorithm to find this kind of comet shape. But they were missed in earlier searches. They were deep enough but didn't have the right shape that was programmed into algorithms. I think it's fair to say this would never have been found by any algorithm."

This research made use of data collected by the Kepler mission, funded by the NASA Science Mission directorate.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 135316.htm
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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Iko » 28 Oct 2017, 21:46

Cane - ja znam prikaznata za rekordot na D-r. Valerij PoIjakov moshne dobro...patem - ne znam dali znaesh, no on e Doktor po Astro-Nautichka Medicina i eden od vodechkite svetski eksperti za vselenska biohejvioristika...samiot negov ogromen prestoj - e vsushnost del od eden opsezhen Sovetski medicinski eksperiment za koj toj, ne samo kako sposoben struchnjak tuku i sovesen oficer - se ima samiot dobrovolno prijaveno...ne za dzabe e odlikuvan so Ordenot na Lenjin i proglasen e za Heroj na Sovetskiot Sojuz - sam go prevzede hrabro medicinskiot rizik celosno vrz sebe...ne mnogu istaknati doktori mozhe deneska da se pofalat so istoto...on imashe hrabrost i se osmeli...

Rama ili ne - jas gi ochekuvam malite zeleni eden den...ako sletaat so po tri prsti - znach Srbite se stvarno nebeski narod...:lol:
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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Canemakedonski » 28 Oct 2017, 22:00

Хехе, а Ивица Дачиќ е Jaba the Hut :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby G3SG-1 » 30 Oct 2017, 16:06

:D
Canemakedonski wrote:Хехе, а Ивица Дачиќ е Jaba the Hut :lol: :lol: :lol:


Koga ke se raspeva u casr ...Ta kurva zelenz. Od Idemo na mars jer tamo nema rada
Za dobredojde....
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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Canemakedonski » 13 Nov 2017, 23:27

За помалку од 10 години Елон Маск го превзеде приматот за комерцијални ракети носачи од Русија. Што ќе биде во следните десет годоини?

As recently as 2013, Russia's venerable fleet of rockets commanded nearly half of the global share of the commercial launch market. Since then, the emergence of other players, most notably SpaceX, has considerably shrunk the once-dominant Russian position.

This year, although Russia has made 17 successful orbital launches, only about a third of them have flown for paying customers other than the Russian government or the International Space Station. By contrast, SpaceX has made 16 launches this year, 11 of which have been for commercial customers. A SpaceX projection for 2018 suggests that disparity will continue to grow if the company continues to increase the flight rate of its Falcon 9 rocket.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11 ... d-in-2021/
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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby karamba » 14 Nov 2017, 12:52

Ќе го преебат русите овој и ќе го најдат у некој ендек спакован со мала ракета носач у дупе
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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Canemakedonski » 14 Nov 2017, 22:04

Чисто се сомневам. Кога почна да превзема лансирања на американски воени сателити од ULA за Русиве веројатно ја подмачкува неговата BFR со вазелин.
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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Iko » 16 Nov 2017, 12:56

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Re: Вселената, мистерија над мистериите

Postby Canemakedonski » Yesterday, 21:50

И на SpaceX не му оди секогаш како што е планирано. Вчера е одложено лансирањето на ултратаен воен сателит за кој се што се знае е дека е наречен Зума:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/15/166 ... ive-stream

Сепак, слетувањето на првиот степен на Falcon 9 е уживање да се посматра:



Инаку ULA што ја спомнав погоре е заедничка компанија меѓу Боинг и Локид Мартин преку која тие ги нудат своите услуги за лансирање на сателити за потребите на САД:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Launch_Alliance

И нешто за фамилијата советски ракети носачи Енергија. Основната верзија Енергија со четири странични бустери и четири ракетни мотори во основниот блок е лансирана само двапати. Страничните бустери можат да се користат и како засебна ракета носач, украински Зенит, која ми се чини последен пат е лансирана во 2015. Планирани биле и Енергија М со само два странични бустери и само еден ракетен мотор во основниот блок и Енергија 2 кај која и бустерите и основниот блок требало да бидат за повеќекратна употреба.

http://www.buran-energia.com/energia/famille-desc.php
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