Падна А321 на руската компанија Kolavia/Metrojet

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An Airbus A321 from Russian Airline Kolavia/Metrojet has disappeared and probably crashed in Egpyt.
Flight ‪#‎7K9268‬ took of from Sharm el-Sheikh at 03.50 UTC and signal was lost at 04.13 UTC. Just before signal was lost the aircraft started to descend with about 6000 feet per minute.

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Според последните информации авионот паднал во близина на Sinai Peninsula, во кој имало вкупно 224 патници со екипажот,од кој 17 биле деца.Нека почиваат во мир... :cry: :cry:
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Tukushto e pronajdeno mestoto na padot...avionot e potpolno unishten vo direktno zabivanje...po se izgleda i najverojatno, za zhal - nema nitu eden prezhivean...golema tragedija...neka pochivaat vo mir i neka im e lesna zemja...losha rabota u bestraga... :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Нека почиваат во мир.

Џганов побрзал да каже дека они го имаат срушено авионот. :evil:
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Ако испадне вистина ова некој ќе биде претворен у прашина за 5 минути
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Мене според фл24 ми личи на класичен stall
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Мене според фл24 ми личи на класичен stall
Јас би играл на карта rear bulkhead failiure со загуба на авторитет по pitch а веројатно и целиот empennage ( вертикален и хоризонтален стабилизатор) како резултат на деструктивна декомпресија поради ослабениот bulkhead :

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Reportedly, as the aircraft was descending through about 200 feet, it 'ballooned up' and the pilot had to apply nose-down pitch to regain the glide path. Descending through 100 feet the pilot again applied nose-up pitch to correct the glide path. The aircraft then suffered a tail strike.

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Investigators reported that they believed the aircraft broke up in the air. Footage from the crash scene shows a main impact zone of the forward fuselage and wings. Engines were found away from the main wreckage, as was the tail section of the aircraft.
Страшна трагедија, RIP :(. Пострашно е што не е првпат ова да се случува а со сегашните регулативи и QA во тој бизнис нема да биде ни последен.
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Пишував од мобилен прееска испаднало граматички грешно

Според* мене е класчен stall
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On 16 November 2001, while operating for Middle East Airlines as F-OHMP, the aircraft suffered a tailstrike landing in Cairo. It was repaired and went back into service with the airline in 2002...

Треба да тргнат од тука.Значи теоријата на Dice е добра!
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Тезата за атентат и бомба во рускиот авион кој се сруши во Синај – Египет се потврдува и од анализата на црните кутии на Ербасот А321 на руската команија Метроџет.
Како што француските медиуми го цитираат изворот на Франс прес, „бруталниот и ненадеен карактер“ на настанот го предизвика падот на авионот.
- Се е нормално, апсолутно нормално во текот на летот и брутално нема ништо повеќе, изјави изворот, пренсува дописникот на МИА од Париз.
Ова доаѓа од анализата на двете црни кутии на снимката на параметрите на летот и таа на разговорите во кокпитот на авионот. Првата кутија со параметрите на летот дозволила да се извлече овој заклучок.Истиот извор исто така подвлече дека фотографиите од остатоците од авионот, покажуваат како да се изрешетани од удари кои одат од внатрешниот кон надворешниот дел на авионот, што ја акредитира тезата за пиротехничко средство.
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FSB chief: Russian A321 plane blown up by homemade explosive device
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November 17, 11:24 UTC+3

Russia’s Federal Security Service has declared a $50-mln reward for information about those responsible for the plane crash

MOSCOW, November 17. /TASS/. Russian A321 plane was blown up by homemade explosive device equivalent up to one kg of TNT, Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) chief Alexander Bortnikov said.

"It can be unambiguously said that this is a terrorist act," Bortnikov said.

According to him, the traces of a foreign-made explosive were found in the airliner debris and the passengers’ belongings.

"In the estimates of our specialists, a self-made explosive device with its power of up to 1 kilogram in TNT equivalent went off aboard the airliner, due to which the plane broke up in the air and this explains the spread of the plane's fuselage parts over a large distance," the Federal Security Service chief said.

The FSB takes measures to find those involved in the terrorist attack on board the Russian airliner in Sinai, the service’s public relations center told TASS.

"FSB and law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation are taking measures to detect the people involved in the crime," it said.

The Federal Security Service appeals to the Russian and the international community for assistance in search for the terrorists.

Russia’s Federal Security Service has declared a $50-mln reward for information about those responsible for the plane crash.

"For providing evidence that will contribute to the detention of criminals a reward of $50 million will be paid," the FSB’s public relations department said.

The Russian president Vladimir Putin has ordered Russian security services to concentrate on search for those involved in the terrorist act on board the A321 airliner in Egypt.

An A321 passenger jet of Russia’s Kogalymavia air carrier (flight 9268) bound to St. Petersburg crashed on October 31 some 30 minutes after the takeoff from Egypt’s Sharm el-Sheikh. It fell down 100 kilometers south of the administrative center of North Sinai Governorate, the city of Al-Arish. The plane was carrying 217 passengers and seven crew members. There were four Ukrainian and one Belarusian nationals among the passengers. No one survived.
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On Nov 17th 2015 the website of Russia's President issued a summary of a meeting conducted on Nov 16th 2015, during which the director of Russia's Federal Security Service stated: "Mr President, we have studied the passengers’ personal belongings and luggage and fragments of the plane that crashed in Egypt on October 31. An expert examination of all these objects has found traces of foreign-made explosives. According to our experts, a self-made explosive device equivalent up to 1 kg of TNT was set off on board, which explains why the fragments of the aircraft were scattered over a large area. We can say with confidence that this was a terrorist act." The website continues quoting the President: "We will act in compliance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, which envisages the right of a state to self-defence. Whoever tries to help the perpetrators ought to know that they would bear full responsibility for any attempts to harbour them. I would like all our special services to focus on this work."

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